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Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to his own facts"- Daniel Patrick Moynihan (not a freemason). I have no problem with a brother presenting his opinions. I do have a problem with Masons who play "ostrich", and refuse to see...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
Double thumbs up, Browncoat! When I suggest that Masonry make some changes in the administrative procedures, some Masons go "ballistic". The world we live in, is not "Leave it to Beaver". I cherish our Craft. I want to enjoy it in my retirement...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
I wonder how many Masons, who are convinced that everything is just fine in the Craft, have recently attended a stated meeting of their lodge? Meetings (and the overall Masonic experience), are going to have to provide VALUE, else members will...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
This is the same attitude that I have seen for many years. Far too many Masons are convinced that everything is just fine, and there are no problems. But that is not the case. Membership is down, and continuing down. Lodges and grand Lodges are...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
You cannot extrapolate the experiences of a religious institution, directly into Freemasonry. If a church loses membership over a period of years, there were possibly other contributing factors, besides the internet which contributed to the...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
There is a great deal of truth expressed here by K3vin. With greater choices for leisure time, there is more demand for "quality' in our leisure and recreational activities.
I have said repeatedly, that Masonry must offer VALUE to the...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
I have said repeatedly, that we can make more efficient and proper use of technology, and still keep true to our ancient landmarks. No one is advocating an abandonment of our historical underpinnings.
The internet is just ideal for...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
If you do not wish to address the problems and challenges facing our Craft in the 21st Century, that is your privilege.
I personally, am delighted that Masons are facing up to the new realities which face our Craft.
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
Let me clarify my antecedents. You said " I don't believe Masonry was ever intended to become what it has become; grandiose buildings, a bloated bureauocracy, and public charities that are harder and harder to sustain. " (end)
I tend to agree...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
You can get the numbers of Masons since about 1922 from the MSANA website. You can get the US population numbers, from the US Census Bureau (my former employer) at their website.
I tend to agree, that if the men who set up the first Grand...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
Current US population is 317,237,657 (Source US Census bureau). The US population is increasing. And it has been increasing since 1959. (even before then)
The numbers of US Masons has been decreasing since 1959 (Peak year).
If you can view...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
I understand. The statistics published by MSANA are not uniformly collected by the grand lodges, and there is no way of knowing (from this data) who resigned and who died.
Here is a terrific article, on this subject. It is a few years old...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
This is an important topic, and needs to be discussed. I am a statistician, (formerly with the US census bureau). I look at these statistics, and see a decline in our absolute numbers. Other men see these numbers, and say everything is fine. No...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
When someone asks me, why are you interested in reversing the decline, and getting Masonry growing again, I always reply:
I am concerned more about the death rate, in Masonry.
They ask: "What is the death rate for Masons"?
My reply: 100% ...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
Let's make sure we are on the same page here. I am delighted to see that California is one of the few states with an increase in membership. Here is the report for 2012:
CALIFORNIA
(2011) 57,250
(2012) 63,546 net gain:
+6,296...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
From JJones: quote On the other hand, I don't see why a lodge couldn't/wouldn't invite community leaders or upright gentlemen to their events. Once they start associating with the members in the right setting then they'd be more likely to ask...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
==I am in agreement. In pre-industrial America, a lodge of more than 100 members was unthinkable. Mega-lodges are the result of urbanization, and consolidation of lodges.
Grand Lodges may have to impose a "cap" on the number of members, and...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
MSANA collects the information from the various Grand Lodges. The methodology that the GL's use, is most certainly not uniform. Some Masons belong to more than one lodge, so these men will be counted twice. (I myself, belong to lodges in KY and...
Re: What would you like to see changed in the Maso
From Doug: Already jurisdiction after jurisdiction have seen increased petition rates and now some jurisdictions are seeing increased memberships.
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What is your source for this statement? The MSANA publishes statistics, provided by...