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Masonería Mexicana

Bloke

Bloke

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Gary R.C. Whiteman PM said:
Dear Bro. Alberto Trevino Trevino,

FRATERNAL GREETINGS!

My name is Gary Whiteman, originally from New Zealand, and I am a Past Master of Sir Augustus Lodge #154, under the United Grand Lodge of Queensland, Australia, and I have been a member of Szechwan Lodge #4, under the Grand Lodge of China, now based in Taiwan, Republic of China, after Free Masonry was forced out of Mainland China by the Communists in 1947. - Unfortunately all Masonic Properties and Assets were confiscated by the Chinese Communist Government.

I have just signed-up to this site about 2 days back, and I don't know how it really works yet... So here goes! Just read your family history on Masonry and I find this particularly interesting. Especially, your family's connections to Free Masonry in China.

At the moment I have recently returned to Houston, Texas, USA, from South East Asia, and I am proposing a visit to Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico, in the very near future. Monterrey is quite close to Houston, and naturally, I would like to establish some Masonic connections before my visit.

I would prefer to communicate with you by Email if this is possible for a start. My email address is: grcw2000@hotmail.com and I look forward to hearing from you.

Have a Great Day. With Best Regards,
Gary R.C. Whiteman, PM. :)
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G'day:)
 
deministri

deministri

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Gary R.C. Whiteman PM said:
Dear Bro. Alberto Trevino Trevino,

FRATERNAL GREETINGS!

My name is Gary Whiteman, originally from New Zealand, and I am a Past Master of Sir Augustus Lodge #154, under the United Grand Lodge of Queensland, Australia, and I have been a member of Szechwan Lodge #4, under the Grand Lodge of China, now based in Taiwan, Republic of China, after Free Masonry was forced out of Mainland China by the Communists in 1947. - Unfortunately all Masonic Properties and Assets were confiscated by the Chinese Communist Government.

I have just signed-up to this site about 2 days back, and I don't know how it really works yet... So here goes! Just read your family history on Masonry and I find this particularly interesting. Especially, your family's connections to Free Masonry in China.

At the moment I have recently returned to Houston, Texas, USA, from South East Asia, and I am proposing a visit to Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico, in the very near future. Monterrey is quite close to Houston, and naturally, I would like to establish some Masonic connections before my visit.

I would prefer to communicate with you by Email if this is possible for a start. My email address is: grcw2000@hotmail.com and I look forward to hearing from you.

Have a Great Day. With Best Regards,
Gary R.C. Whiteman, PM. :)
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More than happy brother! I´ll send you an email.
 
deministri

deministri

Registered User
Bloke said:
How long does it generally take an EA to become a MM ?
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Deeply sorry for the big delay bro! For entered apprentices to become a MM: also a really hard question, for what ive seen is more of the commitment that one shows in the personal study, some cases are slow, other really really into it. For me it was a big surprise to get the second degree, felt i wasnt ready hahaha. I feel im still 1 year away to become a MM. My lodge is under a bad time right now, but that wont stop me :) but long story short, i would like to say that maybe 3 years minimum.
 
Glen Cook

Glen Cook

G A Cook
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deministri said:
Hello everyone, my name is Alberto Treviño Treviño, im from San Nicolás de los Garza, Nuevo León, México.

I joined freemasonry for about 2 years and 3 months already, and im 2th degree, Compañero Masón (still not sure the correct translation sorry hahaha).

Fourth generación of masons in my family: my Grand Grand father, Arturo Wong from China, came to México as a refugee and later meet my Grand Grand Mother (mexican). Arturo came with other family members and friends (also masons) and soon received a warm wellcome from the mexican Lodges (this around 1900 I belive). They all together founded a still locally known Lodge called Che Kun Ton #12.

His son, also called Arturo, joined freemasonry after his father (my Grand Grand father) passed away, and years later got the Master degree.

Years later my father joined, and after a great jounery of study, he became 18 degree.

3 years ago from today my father passed away, leaving only books behind and no information about freemasonry. A mason friend invited me, and with his help, i was able to see in the Grand Lodge records all this information.

So here I am, working every day to be better :)
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Of what grand lodge are you a member?
 
JMartinez

JMartinez

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Is freemasonry frowned upon or well regarded in Mexico? Do masons in Mexico wear Masonic rings or hats? Has the cartel situation in Mexico impacted masonry or lodges?
Don't mean to sound ignorant just a question


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deministri

deministri

Registered User
JMartinez said:
Is freemasonry frowned upon or well regarded in Mexico? Do masons in Mexico wear Masonic rings or hats? Has the cartel situation in Mexico impacted masonry or lodges?
Don't mean to sound ignorant just a question


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There are no ignorant questions, my brother. Please feel free to ask. Actually I think it is my responsibility since i haven't see any other Mexican masons around.

I wanna say it is a 50/50. Some people are still thinking we practice witchcraft, other that we are a satanic cult, other just think of us like some kind of church from europe. At the end, ive seen a lot of hatred around, gladly not fro my family. But there are those who really know about freemasonry is, there are almost 8000 families with masonic decendence around the state of Nuevo Léon, but not all of them have active members; it appears it has become a "myth" or just the typical "yeah, this appron was your grand grand fathers" and thats it.

Im part of the ones who feel freemasonry is part of my family traditions, and it comes from my chinese grand grand father.

Yup, masons wear rings and hats. In my lodge we use Polo shirts with our name, lodge name, and the square and the compass.

About the cartels situation: havent see any issue or threat at all, we are no real threat, i think we are not. Freemasonry for me is, should, and still be a philosophic, moral, and hermetic school. I truly believe the government and military will protect the citizens from any danger. If you ask me, ive seen the real threat can be buy drugs and mess around the wrong people; stay cool and stay save. "dont poke the bear, bears dont like to get poked"

Hopefully this answered all your questions. Feel free to ask or send me a message.
 
JMartinez

JMartinez

Registered User
deministri said:
There are no ignorant questions, my brother. Please feel free to ask. Actually I think it is my responsibility since i haven't see any other Mexican masons around.

I wanna say it is a 50/50. Some people are still thinking we practice witchcraft, other that we are a satanic cult, other just think of us like some kind of church from europe. At the end, ive seen a lot of hatred around, gladly not fro my family. But there are those who really know about freemasonry is, there are almost 8000 families with masonic decendence around the state of Nuevo Léon, but not all of them have active members; it appears it has become a "myth" or just the typical "yeah, this appron was your grand grand fathers" and thats it.

Im part of the ones who feel freemasonry is part of my family traditions, and it comes from my chinese grand grand father.

Yup, masons wear rings and hats. In my lodge we use Polo shirts with our name, lodge name, and the square and the compass.

About the cartels situation: havent see any issue or threat at all, we are no real threat, i think we are not. Freemasonry for me is, should, and still be a philosophic, moral, and hermetic school. I truly believe the government and military will protect the citizens from any danger. If you ask me, ive seen the real threat can be buy drugs and mess around the wrong people; stay cool and stay save. "dont poke the bear, bears dont like to get poked"

Hopefully this answered all your questions. Feel free to ask or send me a message.
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Thanks Brother, I plan to go to Mexico City during my vacation. Maybe I'll visit a lodge there.


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JMartinez

JMartinez

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deministri said:
More than happy to welcome you into my lodge if you want to visit us. We work Tuesdays at 8:00pm. Here is my email gbeto87@gmail.com, do you speak spanish?
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It's funny because my grandparents are from Mexico. Growing up I spoke Spanish. But when I started going to school it was discouraged because classes where in English. But I am getting a degree in Spanish and accounting at my university.


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deministri

deministri

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JMartinez said:
It's funny because my grandparents are from Mexico. Growing up I spoke Spanish. But when I started going to school it was discouraged because classes where in English. But I am getting a degree in Spanish and accounting at my university.


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No problem bro, if you come across Monterrey for a visit in our lodge, i´ll be your translator.
 
Glen Cook

Glen Cook

G A Cook
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That is one list, generally consistent with other Grand Lodges, and particularly consistent with Commonwealth Grand Lodges.
 
dfreybur

dfreybur

Premium Member
The recognition issue is strange. The UGLE list and the California list are different. I have not looked up other lists but I suspect many variations would be found. What this tells my generosity is Mexican jurisdictions tend generally to be regular. What this tells my attention to detail is Mexican jurisdictions don't request recognition from everyone, possibly to not deal with the American principle of exclusive jurisdiction.
 
deministri

deministri

Registered User
dfreybur said:
The recognition issue is strange. The UGLE list and the California list are different. I have not looked up other lists but I suspect many variations would be found. What this tells my generosity is Mexican jurisdictions tend generally to be regular. What this tells my attention to detail is Mexican jurisdictions don't request recognition from everyone, possibly to not deal with the American principle of exclusive jurisdiction.
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Im very new in this matter of recognition but in think you are right. Tuesdays is when I go to my Lodge. Actually we have Initiation day today ill try to reach early and ask in the Gran Lodge Office (plus also it will be a good idea to request my masonic passport), im planning to visit one day Mary's Chapel no.1 in the future, i dont wanna find out i cant go there

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dfreybur

dfreybur

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deministri said:
Theres is more than one list???
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Every jurisdiction has its own recognition list. Many follow the UGLE list but rarely do an exact copy. There are several committees that make recommendations and again not every jurisdiction follows those recommendations.
 
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